Anonymous has asked to open a thread for growing tips, here it is.
People, I have a lot of caregivers looking for patients, and a lot of patients looking for caregivers. Could we use this blog to match 'em up?
Let's hear some growing tips for different strains of medicine, indoor and outdoor.
Subscribe to:
Post Comments (Atom)
91 comments:
Hi Everybody. I am new to this site and don't want to violate any protocol. I am responding to the paragraph,
"People, I have a lot of caregivers looking for patients, and a lot of patients looking for caregivers. Could we use this blog to match 'em up?"
A new site that may be helpful is www.montanacaregiver.net (not to be confused with www.montanacaregivers.com).
Ive been working with Northern lights #5 crossed with Maui wauwi. A great genetic however the cross had not been isolated well and we have had some hermaphroditing problems? So I have found a product called reverse it is made by dutch masters. If anyone has problems with hermaphroditing I would recomend this. Any other suggestions?
Oh I almost forgot. I have used this product for plant that have a genetic predispositon to hermaphrodite. The three main reasons plant hermaphrodite are Heat,Light Pollution and Nutrient stress. I do not know if Dutch masters will help hermaphroditing in these insances.
This is good technical information. Can some other growers chime in here? C'mon, PFU Board Members, I know some of you are caregivers too. Help us out here!
I don't know if you all are aware of this discussion website but it is a tremendous resource. Questions are answered promptly from growers around the world.
http://www.rollitup.org/
It is nice to have access to these great sights, they are such a wealth of information. Some of the benifits to having dialog in this forum are: developing relationships with other caregivers in this area, Disscussing problems or tricks that may be exclusive to our region and elevation, Developing our regional medicinal genetics and growing style. I have had medicine while a patient in Colorado and California, the quality was all 1st rate, but the growing styles were obviously different. It is time to develop Montana style genetics and growing styles, it will be easier to do this together as a caregiver network.
Namaste
Namaste and others:
I am aware of a caregiver in NE MT who seems really knowledgeable and wants to work with patients to develop what they need. Contact me at info@mtpfu.org if anyone is interested.
He is absolutely right.Hermaphrodite changes occur when there are heat,nute,spending to much time in ones room after DARK. Light pollution will give you vegi looking buds, long and feathery on tops. Then come the wonderful yeller male flowers!! Drop your ppm's, make sure no light pollution, and keep heat below 84 deg(plenty of ventalation) Any strain will hermy in the wrong conditions. Dont flower too long. use strain flower recomendations and a good loop to check your tricromes for ripeness. Tricromes will turn from a clear to an opaque, when 10-20% turn opaque then its time to harvest! Good luck and stay female
Big sky blue
Strange Brew
Pepper berry....
Wow, could it be that this blog is actually going to come to life?
Very cool.
I'd like to know if it is possible to grow outdoors in Montana, or if the environment is just too hostile and we need to be indoors.
Comments, please?
Skip
skip, there are some late september and october strains from B.C. The big thing is if things freeze early or not they can handle 27deg f if it warms up in the day. Have a buddy in the nw part of the state that just harvested. Hope this helps
oh by the way skip indoors is the only way to grow. No chance of others seeing it.
Its about time the Montana Medical mj community starts to share our growing techs and strains. There should be enough medicine in our state for the patients. We are not lucky enough to be able to go to the local "dispenciary". We must provide our own, and there are a lot of patients in need.
Rich
I sent my application to the state a week ago and am now trying to line up medicine, by caregivers as well as growing my own.
Does anyone have suggestions on a good garden supply house?
I am looking at High Tech Garden Supply and they seem ok but their shipping costs from Florida or Pennslyvania are large.
Any suggestions for right here in Montana through the winter other than Home Depot or Lowes for lights and things?
I would look at a shop in Bozeman. They will ship and the owner Knows his stuff. The name is Planet Natural. Be aware they are not a "Medical Marijuana growing supply store". It Puts a little to much risk out there for the owners comfort. They do Have a good inventory. And the wonderful staff.
Outdoor Growing in Montana Is a very real option. i think the best way to go about it would be to do a greenhouse scene. The greenhouse method I prefer would be to use a retractable shade. With this device you can force flowering early and harvest before the real cold. The other great benifit is that your plants can fully mature. However it is a labor intensive way to grow, you have to be there every day.
With the tight limitations on plant numbers, the state must intend for us all to grow outdoors. It takes 21 plants indoors to accomadate the needs of most patients, and only 6 plants outdoors. That info is from Chris Conrad and Americans for safe access. Depending on the illness and how many strain variety needed it could vary.
Namaste
patient looking for good growing supplies can go to hydroempire.com
These guys know their stuff. Good prices and free shipping over 200 dollars. I visited Planet Natural and they didnt even have a shade for a 1000w hps let alone the hps not impressed at all!! I have been using hydroempire for years. fast shipping and everything under the sun. desceet shipping also. peace.
I would like to speak with some caregivers in regards to strains that work for various ailments. Have any of you found a particular strain works for the effects of chemo, nausea, etc..? It would be an excellent resource for new patients that have never used this medicine before. Thanks for getting involved!
its a misnomer thet any strain will hermy under the right conditions. first of all you have to have a xy female. a xx female wont hemy unless you use acid or some other outside chemical stimulus.for instance i have a white widow strain that ive had for years now over the course of time everything has hapened to this strain in my room and others never a male flower,but by the same token i have a purple twilight strain that if you look at it wrong it hermies.so i guees what i'm getting at is it all in the genetics of your plants.you can do things enviromentally to keep a predisposed hermy from flowering such as temp. less food. plenty of reguler light cycles ect. but the best thing you can do is get better genetic material to start with.ask your cargiver. as a cargiver in n.w. mont. part of my service is to provide my patients with clones of the highly potent known female phenotypes that iv'e been years developing.as far as your northern lights cross without having the original polen father its imposible to stabilize the strain.then you have to relize that the seed you got if it came out of a bag its more than likly is the product of a plant selfing while you get almost 100% female plants like this they also seem to have a high rate of hermies such as 75% or so thats just a obsevation from experiance. duke
What does the term selfing mean? Is it not true that if let grow long enough into their flowering cycle that all cannabis plants will pop some male flowers. Self preservation?
Anyone have a good source for seeds? Someone passed along www.nirvana-shop.com to me. Has everyone gotten their orders from Dutch seed companies?
the term selfing is used to desribe a plant thet polinates it self.no its not true that any canabis plant will pop male flowers given time.now growing a plant well past its prime does cause alot of stress on the plant and can cause it to morph.but self preservation i doubt because by the time they would morph from over growing they wouldn't have time and energy to produce viable seeds.selfing is also refered to in the production of feminized seeds.they take a known xx female so it doesn't have a nateral perpensity morph, then they spray it with a chemical compound to make the flowers change sex in a small area of the plant then the pollen is used to polonate the plant.the seeds you get are in efect clones genetically identical to the mother including sex.
Thanks for the in depth info. I continue to find that genetics,enviornment are the keys to great medicine. Any suggestions on how to deal with a genetic that is predisposed to hermaphroditing? I have some plants in my cycle that have proven to be at risk. the medicine is needed, so cuting them and starting over would be my last option.
What would be suggestions for a good weekly bug prevention routine?
Right now I am doing a Neem oil dillution sprayed on floors and walls daily, and once per week I am useing SM90 a all natural blend of oils, that I am applying to the roots? I am trying to stay organic/natural with my bug prevention.
does anyone know of a strain that has less of the dry mouth dry eyes side effects? For patients with tear duct issues these side effects can be more severe.
there are basicaly two types of hermies.the first is a true hermaphidyte it will start to bud and look female then rather sudenly(I've seen them put on pollen sacks and loose pollen in 24 hours) they will put on little ball shaped pollen sacks under the female flower.If you have one of these the only course is to pull it.now the second type is a morphidyte. you can deal some with these. eviromental conditions can keep these from producing those little yellow male flowers.what you need to do is make there life as easy as posible.i.e. 70 to 76 degrees(without c02 enrichment 78 84 with co2)cut down on the fertilizer a little,ideal mosture conditions,plenty of air circulation(i can't stress this enough plants perspire on the bottom side of the leaf to cool themselves and must have air ciculation for the evaprative cooling to function properly)if you are standing in your room pick out a leaf and watch it if it doesn't move once in a while you need more circulation.and of corse no light polution.now that youve done all this your probably still going to have seeds to deal with but it could have been worse.and of course don't clone that phenotype and don't try the seeds.again i can't stess enough the need for good genetics.seek out clones of known female potent stock,and get all you can get out of your light and nutrient bill.(p.s. ive seen people pull out the male floweres with tweazers if you dont have alot of plants)
now the bug thing i hate bugs.it sure sounds like your plants wont rust with all that oil they likly can't breath to well either.if you dont have any bugs it sounds to me like your useing the cure for prevention.the best prevention is to have your enviroment sealed with filters on your incoming air.then cleanlyness don't give them a place to hide,no animals in your grow area,no extra people in it either(just tell them how beautiful your garden is.take pictures)I dont spray at all unless i'm infested(and it hapens to us all)so again an ounce of prevention.....
Here's one for ya...how much are the caregivers charging for medicine on the average??
Thats a good question "average price"? I would hope that this is taken on a case by case basis. I know patients who are single moms with three kids who are debilitated and can not work or function. That patient is recieving free medicine. Other patients I know have conditions dealing with severe pain but they can work and get by well, paying all there bills etc. They can pay up to 350. This includes delivery within a certain area, and infused butter or cannabis food when available.
i have always charged 150 for medicine.I'm of the opinion that people shouldn't have to pay street price for there meds.i mean really how much do you guys need to make?i know what it costs for production i produce for a considerable number of patients. duke
About seed ordering....Stay away from UK and Netherlands if you can the last 2 orders from the UK I had show up green taped from customs.Customs at the Chicago postal hub is getting very effective in finding seed shipments.AHOLES.Try going with the Canadian banks but stay away from BC bud depot.Bad news.Google peakseedsbc.Not many varieties but good genetics and honest folks.Good luck.
Duke, was just asking to get a general idea. Its a lot easier to charge wholesale when you have a "considerable number" of patients.Must of got a heck of a deal on your equipment,electricity,and time. Some of us can just help a few. Was polling the blog to see if many DONATE!!!A lot of us out here have NO insurance and are on a fixed income. So if some of us charge 300 for half of our patients(who are financially stable) and FREE to those in REAL need whats the difference. Get off your high horse dude. I mean duke.
Rich
Treatingyourself.com is a great place to get info on Canadian seed banks.Not to steer you away from this forum as we need to get this baby going strong.I would entertain a seed share/swap concept,if it could be done without causing forumadmins any grief.Maybe not doable.This(seedbuying)I have found over the last couple of years can be the hardest part of self grow besides the learning process.Its a shame that there are so many ripoff artists involved in the seedbank business.If ok with Admin.,I would be happy to list the names of banks I have had good luck with.It would be up to you guys to find them of course.
Anyone know when the next mtpfu meeting is on the agenda in the Billings-bozeman area. Would be great to meet other patients.Rich
Duke, I talked with you a year or so ago.I need to talk with you, again.Do you have an e-mail?
Rich - It only takes two people for a meeting. We'd be interested in connecting with you. We can be reached at rmcc@hushmail.com. For that matter, anyone is welcome to e-mail.
no high horse just couldn't charge 350 never charged more than 150 when i had 1 patient
big d its dandhydro@interbel.net duke
Here's my personal experiences with various seed banks,not intending to bash anyone or support any one just my personal journey down seedy boulevard.I only hope this saves someone the pain anguish and expense I have encountered.Seedbay UK...I think he is up front and honest,however I think customs has his number.I have had 2 customs green tape jobs,both recently and one never received the funds episode.Gypsy Nirvana seedbank UK...Same packaging as seedbay same owner.Screams pick me,pick me,to customs in Chicago.Good experiences with all orders though.BC BUD Depot.... Canada.Rip-off city.Steer very clear.Peakseedsbc....Canada.Excellent service and genetics.No problems with delivery.Hempdepot...Good bunch great communication great selection and no problems with delivery.Mandala...Spain.Great bunch of people.Great genetics very honest.I have ordered from these guys dozens of times and never had a problem.Will not be open until Feb.DoctorChronic...UK.Have had good luck he has a huge selection and takes plastic which eliminates one side of the headache(getting the money there).As long as your ok buying cannabis seeds w/your credit card.Legend seeds....Canada.Great service great seeds No problems w/ these guys.Beware of most of the rest I have tried almost all of them and been screwed by several.I hope this helps save someone from the expensive beatings I took.You will have a bad deal at some point no matter who you deal with.Remember its a completely unregulated business.Good Luck.This is why we in Montana need a seed share community.Empower yourselves and remove one weak link(rip off seedbanks) from the equation.Share your beans and love.
i dont know how we could do it but wouldn't it be cool if we (the growers)could somehow get together and have some sort of clone bank. so we all could have acsess to the best genetics without the crapshoot of seeds. any ideas? duke
duke - certainly count us in for a clone exchange/bank. E-mail us, if you wish. We'd be more than happy to get together.
rmcc@hushmail.com
I would be happy to provide someone with cuts and seeds,I would not be interested in receiving cuts.Really good way to get Spider Mites or something worse in your grow room(be careful guys).Some of us may just be happy to give and leave it at that.I wonder if the MMJ article states any thing about whether cuts are technically plants and if the law is specific here some may want to bring only 6 cuts.Just a thought.Maybe I think too much.LOL.
Definately not thinking too much Fleabit. A reminder to all of us that we need to think hard about being in the guidelines of the law. We are the medical marijuana community, not a bunch of stoners getting together...thanks Fleabit!!
Rich
if the cuts aren't rooted they are considered usable product.at least thats what the police said when they came to my house.it didn't make sense to me because the law says dry useable but he said if its not still on a plant(with roots that was his definition of a plant anyhow) its usable wieght.your right about the spidermites thats one of the bigest problems we face.i'm in the same boat i'd be willing to give,but i've been 3 years acuireing the the 4 phenotypes i grow.been ifested with mites twice(both times brought by visitors who grow, and they never went near my rooms i tracked a egg in somhow i guess) its the worst had to empty paint and restart almost lost my strains.
so caution is paramount.when i did recive a clone (kens original grandady purple) i kept it in isolation off site for two weeks sprayed it, and inspected with a scope. to be sure.and also bring no pakaging that came with the cut in your room duke
Duke,how is that Kens Grandaddys Purple for chronic pain?I see some of his beans on SB right now on open auction,no way I can afford them.Some where down the line I may be interested in a cut of that if we can meet at the exchange.I have alot of genetics mostly in seed form,I am willing to share.I am real positive about the share meetings.Its a step in the right direction.We need a central figure to verify that the person is a card carrier and can set up the meetings while contacting the members registered to attend.That way the time and place dont have to be advertised on an open forum.Let me know what you think guys.
Duke, been having problems with my e-mail.Did you get my e-mail?I'll resend if you never got it.
Big D.
big d
i didn't get your e-mail.the grandady is great for cronic pain probably one of the most potent strains i've ever seen.i'd watch those seeds though because the last time i heard it was avalible clone only he didn't have it nailed down to an IBL.so those seeds may be nockoffs.duke
Duke, got my mail working and sent you another e-mail.I'll send you one from my yahoo account, also
I grew some KGDP last year.It yielded right at 3 oz.s per plant, grown in hempy buckets.That's passive hydro with pearlite and verm. in a waste paper basket with a hole drilled up 2 inches, to make a rez.The smoke was excellant.A good allaround, anytime smoke.Nice bag appeal.I don't have any clones, but know where they are.At the time, I have Durban, thai.Just got a rooted clone of each, O.G.Kush sfv cut, and cheese this week.Also have some O.G. x sugar babie kush#5 female, x shiakaberry x monterrey purple x misty father.Got a few more seeds of these.Got a few N.L.#5 seeds from a friend who grew em out.He bought em in B.C.
My opinion on hermies, is get em out of your garden.Trading clones can give you mites, and such.I had some genetics stashed with a friend, and when I gottem back, they were buggy.I really went after them, keeping em seperated, and thought I haddem.Used neem, and sevin.A couple crops later, I found a few mites, that had survived.Using only one product to kill mites, will give you super mites.Use a combo of Avid, neem , some really spendy stuff, I can't remember, and sevin.Rotate em.If you have a bad infestation, they wil get behind you electrical outlets.
Big D
Duke, yahoo couldn't send to your address?Sent another from outlook express.My e-mail is
big.dave@montanasky.net Gimme a holler.
Duke, got youe E.Did you get mine?E-mail is still messed up.Norton.Grrrr.Gotta piece of crap left, and no-one can get rid if it.?????Messing e-mail up.Send me a phone number.
Big D
Why would MMJ folks expect to pay much less than street prices when every med there is increases when it hits the streets?
Granted, it doesn't need to cost as much to produce as most pay, but even only 6 plants is a bit of work.
Also, isn't it important to note than some expensive strains are so potent that they last as long as three $145 buys?
I've been growing my stash since the 60's and indoors since the mid-70's and it stinks that a MMJ novice grower would charge X for some poorly chosen and grown strain while a 40 year veteran w/chemdog is expected to give that away for cost.
Folks need to get what they pay for.
If someone pays 300, that bag should provide as much relief, or more, than two 150 bags, IMO.
Oh, and The Attitude Seed Co. got me some seeds here in a week and, despite my doing everything I could to kill the seedlings embryo (haven't used seed in years and was excited) the strains seem strong and are growing, at least these were.
DutchPassion Blueberry
Himalayan Gold
Power Skunk
dadio,finally somebody that has some common sense,HEY DUKE,I have no IDEA how you pull that off but I know I'm in the top 5% or less for potency and flavor.and there is know way I could produce what I do for that.so what does that say about what you are produceing maybe it is only worth that.just curious.seen ya in hellena,you had all the bad ideas i had to go out and get medicated to listen to it.
you know guys i started reading and writing on this blog to try to help patients and cargivers with grow problems and mabey find out some new methods myself,my intention definitaly is not to argue with a few selfinflatied pompus cargivers over who has the best meds, and as far as defending myself goes i'll be content to think of all the patients that tell me i'm the only reason they can afford the medication they require. duke
Duke has a point. There's a lot of ego on display here. I know a lot of you are proud of your medicine, but it might be best for the forum to reign in the ego just a bit.
This blog is "tips for growing medicine" guys not "Tips for bashing growers". Lets just all get along...and maybe if we open our minds and listen a little we can learn something...I dont care how long you have been doing something there is always room for improvement!!
Respect mon!
rich
Rich nails it.
C'mon folks.
Check your egos at the door.
As long as master growers have to jump thru hoops to even offer their services, the community in general is going to suffer in product availability, potency and price.
As it stands, a grow guru couldn't even give away the best marijuana on the planet to the MMJ program, and that's stupid.
re: As long as master growers have to jump thru hoops to even offer their services
This is why we need to pass some modifications to the law in the next legislative session. And we're going to need all your support to accomplish that goal.
we need our mmj law to allow caregivers to sell excess medication to a cooperative. The cooperative has a set price for set quality medication. Then dispensed from cooperative. Then caregiver's dont have too much excess laying around and people in need will be able to contact cooperative for meds. Sounds like more and more people have no way to obtain meds. My 2 cents worth...
Rich
Rich, that's one good suggestion, and we (Patients and Families staff and Board) are toying with how to get this legislation even introduced, much less passed.
The politicians are afraid of this issue, so far we haven't been able to find anyone to carry the bill.
Definately not easy when dealing with politicians. Specially with the anti-drug slander,I mean campain. Fact of the matter is that we have a law that allow's, but makes access for some almost impossible. Hopefully people will open their minds and most of all their hearts and address this issue finally.
Rich
I and my patients have gone through many strains to get where were at and we dont want to give them up that easily we have those for a reason and when a couple of mtpfu bord members tell us we are in the top 5 on quality we shure the hell aint gona just trade stock. If everyone was growing the same thing well that would suck i would like somthing different every now and then that and you would aventually become immune to that type of med and then when u go to find that higher med guess what it aint there cus everyone has the same shit that would suck cus then everyone would have to look elseware
Go blow your horn somewhere else little boy blue!! wow... top 5 by the mtpfu (sp)bord members you must be PROUD. So start posting as a f***ing new guy and blowhard. Make a lot of contacts that way. Oh ya yours is the BEST,voted by the 2008 mtpfu cannabis cup. I must have of missed that one. Sounds like this community doesnt have anything to offer a dutch master such as you...
Been around a while...
Post this one anonymous...hey spell that one!
WOW,
Some very angry people here or maybe just in a lot of pain (they go hand in hand) I know that first hand.
Sounds to me that there are some caretakers and patients that need to step back and re-read the law.
Why hold a card if you want to and are buying off the street?
Also, are some of you caretakers in it for fast $$$$ or to help those in need?
Before you blow up at me, I to am a caretaker/patient and if i can make my costs back for my over head and time I see no need to be like other pharmacies and gouge the patient $300-$400 per oz...get real even $200 is almost to much....I personally have not even charged my patients that much.
Free samples GREAT idea and I do that for my patient's but it is weighed along with there other order and NEVER, exceeds there 1 oz of position... many things to think about.
WE ALL NEED TO KEEP IN THE REALMS OF THE LAW.
Give the DEA a spark and they WILL make it into a fire!!
Keep in mind we should all be on the same page and fighting for the same thing not each other.
ok thats my opinion for what it's worth.
Now you can let me have it.....lol
dr.bud
i agree with dr bud but on the other hand there are those few that just wana play with there toys and expect the best they are gona pay full price every time if your broke and dieing we give it away aint no big thing
DR BUD,
you are a man after my own heart.so enough of all this lets kick the tires and light the fires. anybody got any grow problems? i know i have from time to time. does anybody know a organic deterent to use against the dreaded spider mite to keep them from seaking out our grows. duke
Skip asked a question earlier about outdoor cultivation "Is it possible?"
Yup... with the right information and genetics it is entirely possible to grow outdoors in Montana.
I have 20 + years experience with outdoor cultivation
I will be offering outdoor cultivation clinics Free for patients this summer In the Western part of the state and I am working out the details.
If anyone is interested they can contact me at Smokapelli AT G mail dot com
Thanks
Smokapelli
Duke, Thank you for your advice and sacrafice. Spider mites? I have no miracle cure. I use a product called SM90 it is a mix of natural oils and works well. But getting ride of the little beasts requires lots of work. I am interested in the first two weeks of life. It seems to be my trouble time with my plants. What is the ideal Humidity? P.H? Temps?and P.P.M?
i was hoping to find somthing i could plant around the outside of the rooms or spray outside to deter them.i only have any trouble in the summer.as far as the first 2 weeks go if its in a clone machine the ph should be kept low 5.8 to 6.2 is great this slows the growth of molds and funguses. the temp should be between 75 and 80 degrees i set my t-stats at 78 i run about 60 to 75 percent humidity with tons of air circulation.as far as ppm goes clones dont take much nitrogen,and like a little phos. to root well.i've worked out a recipee that seems to yeild 100% most of the time.i'll break it down for a small 4 gallon machine.1 oz. botanicare power clone liqiud,1 oz botanicare hydrogaurd,1/3 oz liquid karma,1/3 oz general hydroponics flora micro(botanicare cal/mag plus works also but it falls out of solution and the iron sticks all in the mag drive pump) 3/4 oz botanicare pure blend pro bloom.mix these together ph balance.next where you place your clone machine is very important.the best place ive found is under the shade of a large plant in my veg. room.if thats not avalible to you flouresent lighting is the next best bet.if the light is to intense you'll be asking to much work out of your cuttings before they have roots.temp. is also important to maintain between 72-80 degrees this can be acomplished with a seedling heat mat under the machine or a fish tank heater(again in the veg room under the canopy is perfect and i think the bigger plants encourage them somehow)how you go about cutting the clones is impotant as well.the stalks were working with are holow so you need to make sure you don't smash the stalk when you cut it,but drag the blade across the stalk.if you smash it when it springs back to shape it will suck a air bubble up the stalk cousing a embolism and keeping the cuting from uptaking water and nutient.the cut should be clean and at aprox. a 45 degree angle.next cut all leaves of except the top node and top 2 hands being carful not to nick the stalk or cut the growth nodes off above the leaf conection to the plant. next dip cutting in botanicare power clone gel.place in clone machine wait for roots.also if your a tobacco smoker you need to wash very well before dealing with seeds or cuttings. nicoteen will keep seeds from sprouting and clones from rooting properly.duke
Thanks for the great info Duke.If anyone else has a good method please throw it in there. Knowledge is power. Lets all share it.Namaste.
lets get some info out there for the individual patient. Here is a 6 plant low dollar cloning method. I use clear plastic cups. I take my cuttings, harvested in the method duke uses above, however I do use clonex cloning compound. I then insert clone into General Hydroponics foam starter plugs. I place the new clone in the clear plastic cup; add one tablespoon 6 to 6.5 ph water and tape closed with two strips of scotch tape. I then place these cups under my veg canapy or under compact flouresent lights. I keep the temps at about 80, and add water if the starter becomes too dry. I have great success with this low dollar method. Althought it does take longer than my aeroponic cloning machine.
Many of the costly "super-bud" formulas are little more than regular, unsulphered molasses.
1 TB/Gal starting at week 3-4 of 12/12 will increase your bud weight. You can add any other needed nutes to this water.
I use it all the way to harvest.
Here's some more info: http://www.onlinepot.org/grow/3lbsMolassesManual.htm
well we have covered a couple of different methods for the first 1 or 2 weeks of life. Now my girls have some little roots shooting out. How do I transition from cloning machine to hydro or dirt. How much light? Nutrients? P.H? How long till flowering?
Rich,I know you have some good info here, Dont be shy.
http://www.onlinepot.org/growguides.htm
To above anon w/seedlings.
Rollitup.org has all the answers to your questions and more.
There's no way for anyone else to grow your weed, so you may as well do some reading.
Also, don't use molasses w/hydro. Mucks up the works.
Well to tell the truth I already have my methods for growing medicine. I was trying to get some good info on this blog for new patients. Simple inexpensive methods from Montana caregivers to Montana patients. I was hoping caregivers would give us some step by step effective methods. That way any patient cargiver can grow there own meds. Yes Daddio any one can do some simple reaserch on the web or by a book and learn an effective method. We also have some great resources here at home in Montana.
Why would anyone limit themselves to a few local caregivers opinions when there are literally thousands of opinions to choose from just a click away . . . some good, some great, and some foolish. Having multiple options just seems the way to go.
Where is it you think many of the more experienced growers amassed their knowledge and turned to to get the answers some don't want to bother looking up?
Every grow is different and no one method will guarantee success.
I'd think anyone serious about this would relish the research, which is always ongoing.
I certainly would advise against trusting any one persons grow advice completely.
Even with the best intentions, some make false claims, and some of those can kill a grow.
your right dadio why should we even talk about it here its just redundant.we should just shut this blog down and get back to our crayons.
Fresh out of the cloning machine and needing medium (dro or dirt). Gently plant your rooted cutting deep enough to keep upright on its own.Remember when using sunshine mix, mix 2-4 tablespoons of high quality organic dolimite lime to raise ph so medium is'nt too acidic. Never compact your soil or medium around roots. This avoids any unwanted damage to those precious white roots that are needed for a good start in the first two weeks of veg. Watering and feeding will compress things well enough. First nutrients are so important. Stunting and locking out nutes can cause weak,small low yeild plants.
Mix a simple one part grow nutrient in R.O. water (mix grow solution to no more than 250ppm.
8ml-10ml of Hygrozyme
5ml of dynagrow KLN rooting enhancer.(Hydro Ph to 5.8,will drift up,I adjust back to 5.8 when res. reaches 6.2)
Feed this basic quarter strength solution the first week. Second week use same Hygro and KLN with grow 600-800ppm in hydro, 900ppm in dirt. (The ranges that work for ME.) Plants should be vegin good by second week. Time in veg will depend on height, taking topping into consideration. First two weeks use a CFL (full spectrum fluorescent) Promotes lavish deep green veg. After a week and a half use a dual spectrum if you can. 3 weeks tops and your in flower with large plants. Going at things relatively slow at first has produced very well for me.
Peace,love and pain relief.
Rich
by the way, where the hell did everyone go?
Admin guy is still here. I think everyone else is being Santa Claus.
whew! Thought I was alone...
Rich
i'm still here too duke
I check in daily so don't feel alone.....lol
just an ol' dirt farmer here but it works very well.....didn't think any one would want to know the old school ways. :)
but dang does it ever work well
one thing is i only use RO water
dr.bud
if want my 2 cents i would be more than happy to share
We want everyone's 2 cents! Specially "just an ol dirt farmer".
Doc,the ol boys are the ones us 40 somethings learned from.
Anyone who thinks they know everything.....well lets just say they DONT.
so lets here it damn it.
Rich
What is the easiest, cheepest and quickest way to clean a hydro unit that every once in a while leaves a residue in the hoses i now use a bottle scrub brush type
dirt farmer is to busy dealing with local things at this time,when life slows down I will be back,if ya have a question just ask I'm only here to help.
hey dip n bump your mentor says mellow out.merry christmas and happy new year to all.IT'S BEEN ONE HELL OF A YEAR,FROM JUST AN OLD DIRT FARMER.
well, don't know if anyone is still reading this but for you indoor growers one thing I have not seen mentioned is the beneficial effect of increased barometric pressure in your grow space. The simplest method is to take a large blower like used in kids "johnny jump up" inflatable party castles and stuff'er in but the best method is to seal your grow area air tight as you can-no exhaust vents- and use as many little brushless DC fans(like those cooling your computer) as you can so you are blowing into the room until you reach a point where you sense the fans begin to "feather", i.e. slow down very slightly,speed up slightly,slow etc. Your desired result is to raise air pressure as much as you can UP TO 3 times normal atmo.pressure. For the most part the best you will do w/out a lot of work and expense is to increase to about 1.75-2.25X normal. I obtained 36" merc. pressure in my 8'X12'X10' greenhouse using 4 22" window/box fans on medium speed. This resulted in about a 20-25% increase in rate of growth but the best part was a 100-150% boost in the actual size of my plants and fruit. My tomatoes that normally had baseball sized fruit produced softball to soccer ball sized fruit and my herb sugar leaves and buds showed the same increase in size. I got my inspiration from a combo of Edmund Scientific Catalogue's Hyperbaric Space-Age Growing Chamber and reading about the late micheal(lle?) Jackson's use of a hyperbaric room for recovering from plastic surgery! NASA has done a lot of research on agricultural application of this technique available from the library of congress for those of you actually interested in the math and botany specifics. When you reach max pressure with the fans you have you may notice there is very little actual air movement in the room so it helps to have a couple of small fans to assure good air circulation over/around the leaves for proper transpiration. My experience showed that the amount of improvement fell off pretty fast after you pass the 2X level. This will eliminate the need for CO2 generators in most cases. Sort of on this same subject, does anyone know what effect ethylene gas might have in triggering/enhancing the budding process? I am aware of importance of photoperiod in starting to flower but wonder if ethylene might even out size of buds on lower reaches. By the way it's important to note that it is actually the number of hours of DARK that causes flowering, i.e. MOSTLY 12.5 hours or more dark will trigger flowering. This means you can have dark for 14 hrs(just to be safe) cycled with up to 36 hours light w/out bothering flower cycle. I generally go with 24hrs on,14off,24on,14off etc. This speeds up production quite a bit. Please note that your particular genetics may effect these times! I hope this info will be of help.
Post a Comment